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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 0/0)
by polydorus 26 (218.214.194.113) on Tue Mar 11 06:58:34 2008 (GMT)
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> Just ordered. Was I first? ;-)
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> If not, at least I got first post here. Small victory while I wait for the cd's.
What's the timestamp on your order ack message?
Mine says: 2008/3/10-18:21:43-2012. Let's see how close we were.
I've been plotting to have a quick notification of when the orders opened and damned if it didn't happen whilst I was out picking up a power supply for a customer's server.
Murphy again!
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 0/0)
by Pierre Riteau (82.240.212.223) on Tue Mar 11 08:14:30 2008 (GMT)
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> > > Just ordered. Was I first? ;-)
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> > What's the timestamp on your order ack message?
> > Mine says: 2008/3/10-18:21:43-2012. Let's see how close we were.
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> I have 2008/3/10-17:58:50-22562 and confirmation that I'm second. Too slow ! ;(
Beat you by 12 minutes ;) 2008/3/10-17:46:27
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 0/0)
by Jim Razmus II (jim) on Tue Mar 11 12:05:36 2008 (GMT)
http://www.bonetruck.org/
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> > > > Just ordered. Was I first? ;-)
> > >
> > > What's the timestamp on your order ack message?
> > > Mine says: 2008/3/10-18:21:43-2012. Let's see how close we were.
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> > I have 2008/3/10-17:58:50-22562 and confirmation that I'm second. Too slow ! ;(
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> Beat you by 12 minutes ;) 2008/3/10-17:46:27
You all beat me since I came in at 2008/03/10-20:21:1.
Looks like I have to be happy with my first post victory (yeah, lame I know).
Time to start training for the next race in 6 months. ;-)
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 3/3)
by wim (88.82.33.37) (wim@kd85.com) on Tue Mar 11 21:48:09 2008 (GMT)
https://kd85.com/notforsale.html
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> You all beat me since I came in at 2008/03/10-20:21:1.
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> Looks like I have to be happy with my first post victory (yeah, lame I know).
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> Time to start training for the next race in 6 months. ;-)
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Well I can only judge for Europe, but these were the top 4 early birds over here:
20080310-174627 Pierre (France)
20080310-175042 Me (to test the webform... Pierre beat me to it!)
20080310-175850 Paul (Switzerland)
20080310-184638 Alexander (Sweden)
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 0/0)
by Polydorus 26 (218.214.194.113) on Tue Mar 11 04:19:53 2008 (GMT)
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> > Puffy sportin' a 'fro in this release? What is that?
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> > He's RICK JAMES, b***h!
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> I thought it might be a fleece, but come to think of it you're probably correct!
You thought right the first time. It's Puffy Jason with the Golden Fleece on board the Argo. Safely away from the calls of the Sirens and all those other dangerous adventures.
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 0/0)
by Noryungi (noryungi) (noryungi @ yahoo.com) on Tue Mar 11 08:55:01 2008 (GMT)
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> > > Puffy sportin' a 'fro in this release? What is that?
> > I thought it might be a fleece, but come to think of it you're
> > probably correct!
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> You thought right the first time. It's Puffy Jason with the Golden
> Fleece on board the Argo. Safely away from the calls of the Sirens
> and all those other dangerous adventures.
I thought it was Ulysses who escaped the calls of the sirens?
That would make our dear mascot Pufflysses?
(Sorry... could not resist) :-)
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 1/1)
by polydorus 26 (218.214.194.113) on Tue Mar 11 09:13:16 2008 (GMT)
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> > > > Puffy sportin' a 'fro in this release? What is that?
> > > I thought it might be a fleece, but come to think of it you're
> > > probably correct!
> >
> > You thought right the first time. It's Puffy Jason with the Golden
> > Fleece on board the Argo. Safely away from the calls of the Sirens
> > and all those other dangerous adventures.
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> I thought it was Ulysses who escaped the calls of the sirens?
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> That would make our dear mascot Pufflysses?
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> (Sorry... could not resist) :-)
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Both Jason and Odysseus had to deal with the Sirens. Jason had Orpheus to play music so loudly that the Argonauts could not hear the Sirens' call so the Argo escaped the rocky islands on which the Sirens dwelt.
I don't think old Useless met them. ;-)
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 0/0)
by Anonymous Coward (68.238.235.118) on Wed Mar 19 02:07:04 2008 (GMT)
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> Both Jason and Odysseus had to deal with the Sirens. Jason had Orpheus to play music so loudly that the Argonauts could not hear the Sirens' call so the Argo escaped the rocky islands on which the Sirens dwelt.
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> I don't think old Useless met them. ;-)
If 'Useless' is a reference to Ulysses, you should know that Ulysses and Odysseus are the same person. If it's not, I'm dreadfully confused.
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 0/0)
by Anonymous Coward (24.84.108.103) on Sat Mar 15 03:58:28 2008 (GMT)
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> > > Puffy sportin' a 'fro in this release? What is that?
> > >
> > > He's RICK JAMES, b***h!
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> > I thought it might be a fleece, but come to think of it you're probably correct!
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> You thought right the first time. It's Puffy Jason with the Golden Fleece on board the Argo. Safely away from the calls of the Sirens and all those other dangerous adventures.
>
It does look a bit like Puffy has shiny golden ear hair.
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 0/0)
by Ian McWilliam (202.7.166.167) on Tue Mar 11 03:13:31 2008 (GMT)
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The link to the "security(8)" should be
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=security&sektion=8
not
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=security&sektion=5
on the
http://www.openbsd.org/43.html#new
page.
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 0/0)
by Wim (88.82.33.37) (wim@kd85.com) on Wed Mar 12 09:22:41 2008 (GMT)
https://kd85.com/notforsale.html
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> How do i know the tshirt sizes. seems sizes S and M varies across the world. whats the length and chest width of sizes S and M for the openbsd ones
One day (tm) I'll put a nice description online with the size, but there are various models and series that have been printed.
Currently (and mostly) we use in Europe and Canada Gildan Tshirts, Heavy weight (210 grams). The sizes are US sizes, so they tailor pretty big. For example, I am 1m88, 95 kg and I fit in a size L.
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 1/1)
by Anonymous Coward (89.77.162.243) on Thu Mar 13 16:57:59 2008 (GMT)
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> Currently (and mostly) we use in Europe and Canada Gildan Tshirts, Heavy weight (210 grams). The sizes are US sizes, so they tailor pretty big. For example, I am 1m88, 95 kg and I fit in a size L.
hmmm, just checked my wireframe puffy, also Gildan, M for 180/87 is a bit tight. ok, ok so I put on at least 12kg since I bought it, but it was always a bit tight in the shoulders.
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 0/0)
by Anonymous Coward (192.16.134.68) on Tue Mar 11 07:43:48 2008 (GMT)
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"some parts of the system are not 64-bit disk block clean yet, so partition larger than 2TB cannot be used at the moment."
This was true for the 4.2 release, has there been any changes in 4.3? I've been browsing the changelog without finding anything about it, but maybe I missed it.
If I understand the problem correctly there is no problems with having *discs* larger than 2TB, but the partitions on it must be <2TB.
Anyone running _big_ raidarrays on OpenBSD, and have some campfire-stories of their adventures, for the rest of us that lack the funding to get hold of such hardware? :)
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 4/6)
by Otto Moerbeek (otto) on Tue Mar 11 09:14:26 2008 (GMT)
http://www.drijf.net
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> "some parts of the system are not 64-bit disk block clean yet, so partition larger than 2TB cannot be used at the moment."
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> This was true for the 4.2 release, has there been any changes in 4.3? I've been browsing the changelog without finding anything about it, but maybe I missed it.
> If I understand the problem correctly there is no problems with having *discs* larger than 2TB, but the partitions on it must be <2TB.
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> Anyone running _big_ raidarrays on OpenBSD, and have some campfire-stories of their adventures, for the rest of us that lack the funding to get hold of such hardware? :)
Yes, this has been fixed. See plus.html: Make FFS code for disk block numbers 64-bit clean. Quota and statfs is still only 32-bit.
I'll make the entry for 43.html soon.
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 0/0)
by Anonymous Coward (192.16.134.68) on Tue Mar 11 09:45:02 2008 (GMT)
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> > "some parts of the system are not 64-bit disk block clean yet, so partition larger than 2TB cannot be used at the moment."
> >
> > This was true for the 4.2 release, has there been any changes in 4.3? I've been browsing the changelog without finding anything about it, but maybe I missed it.
> > If I understand the problem correctly there is no problems with having *discs* larger than 2TB, but the partitions on it must be <2TB.
> >
> > Anyone running _big_ raidarrays on OpenBSD, and have some campfire-stories of their adventures, for the rest of us that lack the funding to get hold of such hardware? :)
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> Yes, this has been fixed. See plus.html: Make FFS code for disk block numbers 64-bit clean. Quota and statfs is still only 32-bit.
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> I'll make the entry for 43.html soon.
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Must have missed that one while browsing, thanks for pointing it out.
One question; What would the practical result be of using a >2TB partition while Quota and statfs still are 32-bit? nothing, simply wrong info sent to user by the apps, end of the world?
I'm quite interested in the work being done in the whole lets-have-support-for-insanely-large-discs area. A dev's blogg on the subject here on undeadly would be really appreciated! If any devs are reading this... nudge, nudge, hint, hint ;)
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 3/5)
by Otto Moerbeek (otto) on Tue Mar 11 19:25:25 2008 (GMT)
http://www.drijf.net
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> Must have missed that one while browsing, thanks for pointing it out.
> One question; What would the practical result be of using a >2TB partition while Quota and statfs still are 32-bit? nothing, simply wrong info sent to user by the apps, end of the world?
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> I'm quite interested in the work being done in the whole lets-have-support-for-insanely-large-discs area. A dev's blogg on the subject here on undeadly would be really appreciated! If any devs are reading this... nudge, nudge, hint, hint ;)
I did some posts some time ago.
If you do not use quota, you won't see any problem. If you do use quota, do not expect it to work as it should on filesystems larger than 2TB (iirc).
As for statfs: df will show wrong values, but that's about it.
I have a diff that will be comitted to 4.4 to solve this.
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders Online! (mod 0/0)
by Anonymous Coward (81.83.46.237) on Tue Mar 11 14:47:40 2008 (GMT)
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Ordered it, looking forward to it ... (on Lenovo R60)
OpenBSD 4.3 (GENERIC) #695: Tue Mar 4 14:28:56 MST 2008
<snip />
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (AGP_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (EXP2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 12 (EXP3)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 21 (PCI1)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 127 degC
acpitz1 at acpi0: critical temperature 100 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "92P1141" serial 5361 type LION oem "SONY"
acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpidock at acpi0 not configured
<snip />
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders - credit card already charged (mod 3/3)
by Annoyed Coward (203.20.79.132) on Wed Mar 19 02:02:46 2008 (GMT)
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> I wish I had not pre-ordered. My credit card has already been charged with Euro 50. I doubt the disks will be shipped for at least a month.
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> I'll never pre-order in future.
Do you have a point?
If you had any doubt, why did you pre-order? And how exactly is that OpenBSD's fault?
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders - credit card already charged (mod 0/0)
by Anonymous Coward (99.132.212.21) on Tue Apr 1 03:46:34 2008 (GMT)
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> If you had any doubt, why did you pre-order? And how exactly is that OpenBSD's fault?
I can't speak for Canada or the OP's country, but in the U.S., charging the buyer's credit card before shipment is considered a pretty shady business practice. Secondly, if the seller doesn't ship within 30 days of charging the buyer's credit card, they're in violation of federal law. The FTC has levied some very significant fines in the past against companies that have violated this law.
Assuming they're not already doing so, the fulfillment folks really should be clearly stating their policy so there are no misunderstandings.
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Re: OpenBSD 4.3 Pre-Orders - credit card already charged (mod 0/0)
by Anonymous Coward (71.10.175.238) on Thu Apr 3 05:18:15 2008 (GMT)
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> > If you had any doubt, why did you pre-order? And how exactly is that OpenBSD's fault?
>
> I can't speak for Canada or the OP's country, but in the U.S., charging the buyer's credit card before shipment is considered a pretty shady business practice. Secondly, if the seller doesn't ship within 30 days of charging the buyer's credit card, they're in violation of federal law. The FTC has levied some very significant fines in the past against companies that have violated this law.
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> Assuming they're not already doing so, the fulfillment folks really should be clearly stating their policy so there are no misunderstandings.
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So what part of "To be released May 1, 2008" isn't understood? Seems pretty clear that the order is placed and the shipment is made later.
Just be glad you ordered it and enjoy it.
I haven't regretted any of my CDs yet.
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